The desert, art and adventure

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Dates 29 Oct '10 to 20 Nov '10

Flexible? Somewhat

Est. Cost 1,200 - 2,000 USD (USD United States Dollars)

Type Travel Partners Wanted

Name The desert, art and adventure

We are hiring a car and driving around in a loop starting in Vegas. My fellow traveler is interested in art, so that's going to be one focus. I am interested in... food and american culture. The itinerary so far is as follows, if we've missed anything unmissable please let us know...

Las Vegas - (Overton to see land art) - Grand Canyon

Grand Canyon - Arizona ( Flagstaff)

Arizona - New Mexico (Sante Fe, Taos, Petrified Forest National park and Albuquerue)

New Mexico - Utah via Colorado... Arches National Park, Bryce Canyon National Park, Great Salt Lake, Monument Valley, salt flats)

Utah - Reno - San Francisco (Death Valley and Great Basin National Park)

It'll be couch surfing, hotels and diners, and maybe a few packed sandwiches.

If anyone wants to join us please get in touch ASAP!!

Bon voyage,
Ali and Chandra

The desert, art and adventure

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ali_bc
ali_bc We're about to set off - next Monday! Last chance for anyone who wants to join us!! We have room for one, possibly 2 if you have a driver's licence! It's going to be epic!
4 years ago
twoeightnine

twoeightnine I've lead a trip slightly like this a few times. Been to almost every place you've mentioned. Depending on how much time you really want to spend exploring each Park and city you're really going to be pushing it if you try and and go everywhere on your list.

That part of the country is really, really large. Every passenger that I've had can't believe that it takes as long as it does to get everywhere. (But I can drive across the Netherlands in 2 hours! Why does it take me 2 hours to drive across Yosemite?) You're looking at 5 hours of driving each of your first two driving days alone without any side trips. Actually more with adding Overton since it's the opposite direction as the Grand Canyon. Probably 8 hours that day. Add in Route 66 and you're talking 9.

As for showers, many of the National Parks have pay showers. (Or if you're lucky you can sneak into one in one of the lodges.) Though if you're staying in private campgrounds you would have access to their showers anyways.

4 years ago
ali_bc
ali_bc Yep, I'm Aussie so I understand distances! To me a five hour drive is a short one! And I've just traveled East to West of Canada by Greyhound too... now that's distance. But I take onboard what you're saying. The plan is fairly broad at the moment and subject to change at any point, especially once we're on the road. We'll review our destinations in more detail once we've go a more firm plan in place. Thanks for the advice!
4 years ago
twoeightnine

twoeightnine True, very true. My Aussie pax we're the only ones who understood. I was talking with a friend the other day I figured out how messed up my ideas of driving are now.
Under an hour = might as well bike
1-2 hours = running an errand
2-4 hours = quick trip
4-5 hours = short drive
5-7 hours = average day
7-9 hours = long drive
9+ = I guess I should get a good night's sleep the night before. (Never happens.)

Let me know if you have any specific questions when you get your route figured out, I know most of the areas way too well. I'd actually join you if I had the money. I'm always stuck going to the same places in the parks and never have a chance to see what I want to see.

4 years ago
chandra108
chandra108 Are there any places you'd recommend as must sees that arn't on the list? Also, as you've done similar trips..what kind of budget would you say approx for this kind of 3 week road trip? Any help would be great. Thanks!
4 years ago
twoeightnine

twoeightnine I guess it depends on what exactly you want to see? Mountains? Canyons? Lakes? Towns? Cities? It's kind of hard to say exactly how much to budget since I lead groups of 10-13 through there. First thing I'd purchase though is a National Parks pass. http://www.nps.gov/fees_passes.htm It'll save you money in the long run.

Some things I'd definitely check out:
Seligman, AZ and Route 66.
Zion National Park is just over an hour from Bryce and is a must.
Canyonlands NP and Dead Horse State Park are also in Moab with Arches.
If you can spend the money do a helicopter tour at the Grand Canyon. (Go with Maverick.)
I've got a bunch of pictures up that you can go through. http://www.flickr.com/photos/twoeightnine/

4 years ago
ali_bc
ali_bc Sweet - Chandra did you get all that! We have lots of planning to do! Actually 289 - a question - accommodation on that route like motels and such, cheap ones, if we decide to just hire a car and drive, will there be cheap motels along the way, any ideas about cost per night there?
4 years ago
twoeightnine

twoeightnine Hmm, almost all of the trips that I've done have been camping so it's tough to say. I know that in a few areas you can stay at a KOA campground in a cabin for around $75 a night.

Vegas I could probably get you a room for around $25 in a variety of places depending on the night.

Bryce is going to be really expensive in that there's only one hotel there, so $130-200.

Zion is rather isolated too, you're looking at $120+.

Death Valley, as long as you have sleeping bags you could sleep outside in one of the campgrounds no problem this time of year.

Moab should be relatively doable for cheap, it's getting to be the offseason and there are a ton of hotels there.

Anytime you're near a bigger city you should be able to find a relatively inexpensive hotel, say $49 or so.

4 years ago
Todd
Todd Hi ali, we're leaving for a road trip in October too. We're starting in Canada though, so I'm not sure if we'll be down there in time. But we'll keep in touch. We're off to Peru in a few days and will buy an old VW camper when we get back.
4 years ago
ali_bc
ali_bc Most of our travels will be in November, so maybe you'll get to us by that time? Let us know... I'm going to go through and pinch a few of your ideas...!
4 years ago
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